Free Breast Implants (Celebratory Tattoo!)
By Shannon • Jun 26th, 2007 • Category: ModBlogI recently received this letter;
In late February of 07, I joined a website called myfreeimplants.com, more out of humor than anything else. Free breast implants? Come on this could not be possible!
I have always wanted breast implants, but could never afford them. My first day on the site, I realized that the website is the real deal and it could work for me! How it works is women, like myself, ask men, or as the website calls them, “benefactors”, for donations to get breast implants. it took me 3 months to raise enough money for my surgery.
On june 4th 2007, I reached my goal amount, and decided to get a my free implants tattoo [by Cary at High Street Tattoo, Columbus OH] . My surgery is scheduled for September 1st 2007, and I can not wait to join the big boobie club.
The internet is a magical place :)
Thanks!
- Lindsay (iam:fancy heart)
Shannon is the founder and former Editor of BME.
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oh….right
Sooo… whats to stop a girl who doesnt want implants from signing up, raising money and then vanishing with it?
Big boobies, little brain and proud too…
cool man..
PUT THE INDEX ON THE LEFT SHANNON!
That tattoo is way cooler than any breast implant can ever be!
What’s the catch? Surely these men expect something back?
Gold digging to the extreme!
I find that whole site a bit worrying..
Don’t breast implants require maintenence? I think they need to be taken out after 10 years or so and replaced…it’s probably not a good idea for low income people to get implants, I doubt men will pony up the money for replacment implants.
I thought it was 5 years??….Hmm. Oh well..Free boobs. :]
This letter absolutely fucking blows compared to yesterdays.
So exactly how many noods and webcam sessions did you have to do before you raised $6k?
i’m glad I’m not the only one bothered by this website.
I cannot help thinking that a lot of these comments are inappropriately mean, given the overwhelmingly charming optimism of the note.
#7 it’s not gold digging to the extreme, more like gold digging gone cyber!
ok, first off assclowns lindsay is far from “low income” second you can not join the site make a quick $6,000 only to scam them. you do not handle the money, the website sends it directly to your plastic surgeon. don’t be a hater because your jealous!
It’s maddening that a community making rhetorical claims of championing open thinking about body modification can itself be so judgmental about someone’s decision to alter her body in a way that apparently makes her happy. One wonders how the reaction would be different if there were a site for well-off supporters of tattooing giving away money to people who lacked funding for the work they want. There’s a question of sexual objectification, to be sure (although a case could be made that these women are simply co-opting sexist objectification for their own needs, which is a fairly well-accepted coping mechanism of the discriminated). But there’s also the question of letting people do what they want in the pursuit of being happy with their bodies, as long as they understand the risks. Is the website troubling? Arguably. Does the girl who sent in the letter deserve to be lambasted and ridiculed for her decision? Probably not.
you people are mean. free anything is effin sweet
# 14 and 15…are you serious. Charming optimism? I got free fake boobs due to a website and call it magic. Yes very charming and optimistic. 15 …how about free std treatment. Get the point?
I am surprised by all the negativity.
I say more power to her. From looking at the website everything is on the ladies terms. She does what she wants to get what she wants.
How is this much different from any other pornish type website? Except there is a specific goal in mind, implants.
So what if they’re boob implants… as long as she is happy.
What with the close mindedness and ugly attitudes?
And yes socialcoma, I am serious.
Fucking awful. Truly awful and a sad indication of the worst end of society.
Millions and millions of ordinary people unable to afford genuine healthcare and yet people still throw money at this kind of bullshit.
What a fucked up society and a truly retarded site.
No, Socialcoma, I don’t get your point. I think free STD testing, which is available (although perhaps not to the extent it should be) in most urban centers, is a beneficial social service. I don’t think that myfreeimplants is running at the expense of free std treatment, as in, I do not think that the donors of this private site made the decision to support women getting implants at the direct cost of supporting free std treatment. They do not seem to me to be inextricably linked, either financially or ideologically.
I guess whatever trips your trigger.
I love how people can come to this site ready to defend tongue splitting, suspensions, and any kind of tattoo or piercing as a “personal choice,” and then be so ready to condemn breast implants simply because they have become so politicized. If you think the personal motives for a tattoo are really that different it’s time to take a good long look in the mirror. Wake up people: this is a body-mod website!
It never ceases to amaze me that people who are spit on by the mainstream because the mainstream doesn’t “get” them are still very, very willing to attack their own given the same situation in reverse. I’m surprised most people don’t ever learn a “live and let live” type message… Or maybe it’s just that people can’t be objective so they just spend their whole lives believing that their own viewpoint, even on things as obviously subjective (and transient) as aesthetics are somehow universal truths that everyone should see as obvious?
People have different body modification goals. Some of them include breast implants, liposuction, whatever. Do I like breast implants? Not really, personally, but I have had different cosmetic surgery. There are tons of tattoos I don’t like PERSONALLY either — big deal. The point is that this makes her happy and more power to her and I enjoyed hearing from her and I can certainly appreciate her story!
And I think that celebrating one body modification with another is pretty neat too!!!
Damn, I wish there were a site for free breast reductions, I’d be all over that.
i typed a big long post but remembered this is modblog the place where everyone is a dick
instead ill just say
I LOVE MISS FANCYHEART!!!
and fuck all you haters
more power to anyone that steps up and takes the incitive to acutally do the things they want in life instead of sitting around on the internet just talking about making things better for themselves
Hey i should join this site so i can get big boobs.hahaha come on pauly lets both join and start a new forum on iam. modded guys with fake titties.
Giles Wallwork: you cite the “free implants” website as an indication of how backwards our society has become, but i think you fail to recognize that many “outsiders” would claim the same thing about modblog. in both cases, people are taking whatever steps they feel necessary to make themselves feel more attractive. many surgical modifications are comparable to implants, including tongue bifurcation and implants such as horns, or the skull and pacman that have been featured on this very website. just because breast implants appear to conform to some figure of a woman that is preferred by the majority of the population doesn’t mean it is any less of a modification…congratulations to fancy heart. personally, this is not a step that i would take, but if it makes her happy, then that’s all that matters :)
I actually listened about this on the radio not too long ago. The company who started the webpage keeps the money and gives a check to the doctor, the girls don’t even touch any of the money so it’s guarenteed to get to the right person.
26: haha, yeah, me too. Only I think I still need to talk to a couple of psychologists before a surgeon would touch me. :/
*smallest violin, just for me.*
ANYways– the tattoo’s really cute, I hope the wearer will be that enthralled after her surgery!
I love that everyone on modblog is so *open* that they’ll argue that “cutting” is just another type of modification and that people shouldn’t judge, but are just chomping at the bit to tell a woman what’s best for her.
I think the whole idea is truly awesome. I think we need to start a site for free mods.
the website is a little troubling, but like hhrvt said, if there was a breast reduction site, i’d hit that.
i just don’t understand why anyone would want huge boobs! they are a pain in the ass.
/2 cents
HEY GUYS! I don’t mind the haters, this site gets so much press positive or negative it does not matter. But I will say this, yes, there is women on this site that get all pornish and sell whatever they have for donations, BUT there are also woman that want nothing to do with that. I mean you will catch more flies with honey. MOST of the guys on this site, are really just rich bored guys who can get free porn anywhere else on the internet, they don’t need to pay thousands of dollars for it!
BUT needless to say, it’s fun, and I am happy, and I think everyone should check it out, if nothing else for the hilarity factor :)
I’m just waiting for the “My Free Tattoo” site to be set up. ; )
AND!!! they will support breast reductions and redos! If it involves boobies, we cover it! We even have transsexuals :)
That’s cool, I didn’t know the site supported transsexuals as well!
oooh. that’s good to know!
i’m just terrified of surgery.
#19: come to canada. free std treatment is everywhere.
I dont trust the internet mainly because I think its main goals are to swindle and increase my penis size by another 5 inches. Its insane to know that people take a lot of things at face vaule instead of looking deeply into it and into what they can really do with something like breast implants. Not to say she shouldnt get them, I just think that anything like this off the internet of all places that says “free” shouldnt really be taken all that seriously. And if something does happen and there are complications or something like that, whats going to happen next. “oops, it was free, your out of luck.”
did anyone even say that the tattoo is cute? because it IS.
Nothing new to add for me, but I wanted to say that I totally love how the boobjob and the story behind it is reflected in the tattoo.
Build fully natural with DDs on a small ribcase (70) I don’t see why someone would want big boobies, but - I also don’t see why someone would like to have a splitted tongue.
And I don’t see the difference between both modifications. To paraphrase the über-mother of all plastic surgery, Cher: “If I want my tits on my back, I will have that, they are mine!”
>>but if it makes her happy, then that’s all that matters :)
No, that is not all that matters. She perpetuates the ongoing myth that to be a woman is to have breasts larger than those she was born with and further adds to the continuing media position that if you do not look a certain way you are essentially ‘less’ of a person.
Cutting your hair or toenails are also types of body modification but it doesn’t mean they are on par with tattooing or piercing as a form of reclaiming your body against the way society says you should look.
Breast augmentation is the opposite end of the spectrum to the modifications most on here practice, it is designed to create a ‘more’ realistic visage of what a woman is supposed to look like where other mods are specific to how the individual wants to look.
They are not the same and should not be treated equally by any means.
If many people find something attractive, then it’s not a myth that it’s attractive to most people.
And saying that women only get breast implants because they’ve been coerced by society is extremely insulting and demeaning.
Giles you are being a hypocrite…
Basically you are saying she has to look the way you think she should look with small boobs.
I wasn’t born with tattoos, so should I not get them?
Lame argument.
She already bucks the way “society” thinks she should look. Just look at her!
She wants big boobs. It’ll make her happy. THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
If it makes you happy and it’s not hurting someone else then why not?
Good luck with your new boobs Fancy Heart! Tits up!
hey a body mod is a body mod.
fancyheart is a hot mod girl with or without beautiful big boobs.
you go girl.
No I am saying that breast augmentation has historically come about from a society enforced and structured belief system whereby women are led to think that their body has to be a certain way for them to be successful or complete.
Many of the modification practices we do have established roots throughout history as a form of expressive assertion.
Breast augmentation has developed completely in the mainstream as a way of controlling the image of women via media misrepresentation (airbrushed cover models, etc etc). Whilst many women believe they are doing this for themselves the facts remain that there is very strong sub-conscious demands placed on them to achieve a figure accepted by the mainstream. That is completely wrong and very different to what many here do.
“Breast augmentation is the opposite end of the spectrum to the modifications most on here practice, it is designed to create a ‘more’ realistic visage of what a woman is supposed to look like where other mods are specific to how the individual wants to look.”
WRONG
its designed to make a person feel better about themselves and realize there “more” realistic vision of themselves
just like tattooing or piercing or implants bring myself toward i see as my “real” true image thats what cosmetic surgery does for other people
Shannon and Fancy Heart,
Now that I’ve had a nap I realize that my comment could be taken the wrong way. Mind you, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with buying tits and there’s certainly nothing wrong with flashing your hooha or the like for money (hell, I’ve gotten plenty of BMEzine subs for it). I’m genuinely apologetic if my comment was taken that way.
However, I do find it a little improbable that guys will just dump money on random girls to buy body parts. Fancy Heart, could you clear this up a bit? I’m actually curious. Did you just message guys or put up a banner on your IAM page or LiveJournal or the like, did you send nudes or bake pies or something?
>>>Basically you are saying she has to look the way you think she should look with small boobs.
NO, That is your lack of understanding of the argument.
I am saying that boob-jobs are completely different to other forms of modification both psychologically and sociologically.
Sorry Paully but you are completely wrong on this one.
Breast enlargement has VERY strong roots (well documented) in being about the expectations of society placed on women to adhere to a particular image.
altering the body is altering the body
doesnt matter how you want to cut it, cosmetic surgery is body modification just like body builiding and piercing and tattooing
just cause something is new doesnt mean its a world wide conspiracy to make all women hate themselves and get boob jobs to look like everyone else
just because something doesnt fall in your little world of body art doesnt make it not
just like any artform, its in the eye of the beholder, what is art for some isnt for others and vice versa
but to say that she is only getting breast implants so she can fit into society be it concious or subconcious is like shannon said extremely demeaning
it makes it sound like you are saying women are to weak minded to make the real decision for themselves
You go Fancy Heart!
And that is a super cute tattoo, I love the style!
No, it’s not my lack of understanding. I understand your argument. It’s my lack of giving a shit. I don’t care why breast implants were started.
I do understand that my personal beliefs are that if something makes someone happy and it is not hurting others they should do what makes them happy.
And I would think a community like this would understand that better than it does.
i knew a woman with breast implants, and in their 9th year she became terribly ill— two years into the illness and lots of hospitalization, the *ding!* finally went off in the doctors’ minds that maybe her fake, huge tits were to blame for her toxic illness. when they were removed, she recovered very very quickly. no shit.
>>it makes it sound like you are saying women are to weak minded to make the real decision for themselves
No offence but there are some great books that go into depth showing just how strong media pressure has impacted on the increase in desire for breast augmentation.
I guarantee you that the desire for larger breasts is not something that has happened overnight by women suddenly waking up realising they NEED bigger breasts to feel alive, it has been well researched as coming from strong media imagery and advertising. Deny it if you like but the evidence is there.
Simply saying altering the body is altering the body is incredibly simplistic and essentially means you see toenail cutting as no different to tongue splitting !!
Breast enlargement is a western phenomenom brought about by tapping into deep insecurities within the female image and as such should be avoided.
I wonder if it would be possible for a guy to get a free boob job that way?
lol
>>>I do understand that my personal beliefs are that if something makes someone happy and it is not hurting others
But it is hurting others, There are some shocking stories of girls as young as 8 wanting breast enlargements because they feel pressured into looking like all those pretty images on TV.
All this does is continue that sickening belief system and further alienates women who do not conform to such imagery.
bicker bicker bicker argue argue argue
Giles - Don’t kid yourself… Tattoos/piercings/etc. are also sociocultural movements that are highly influenced by group behavior.
And look at the “evolution” of breast form over not just the last few thousand years, but even in our body change as we moved from simple primates to homo sapiens, and you’ll see that breast development and permanent engorgement is definitely hard wired on some level. I don’t think it’s any less legitimate than tattoos/etc., especially today when there are more people getting tattoos and body modifications (by far) than breast implants.
i dont see toe nail clipping or makeup or stretched ears or tongue splitting or implants or castration or breast implants or weight lifting as differnt
its all for the same basic reasons and pursuits
and honestly i think its rediculous to think that a tattoo or piercing or tounge splitting has to have some deep huge spiritual meaning
whats wrong with thinking somethings pretty
i think thats teh best reason ever, if it makes you happy and makes you feel pretty who the fuck is anyone to tell anyone else what they can and cannot do with there body
and on an ending note cause i wont argue this point anymore
why do you care, this doesnt effect you or your life, how does my friend getting bigger boobs change your life in the slightest
if i have to guess by alot of the comments i see on modblog from you, i would say you just hate the world and are way to uptight
ok fine society and the devil has tricked her into thinking she needs bigger boobs to look pretty and be “normal”……so
i know her personally i know her reasons and i know this is the right choice for her, so thank you society and the devil for branwashing women into doing what they want to do with there lives
Shannon - Well yes, within small tribal groups tattooing and piercing are/were very much part of being ‘in’.
That is very different to how the resurgence of acts taken up in the west is though, our take on modification is part of being ‘out’ of society. Breast enlargement however is historically and socially about being ‘in’.
Look at the huge difference in reaction that someone with breast enlargements would get within the media and compare that to how someone like Pauly would be received.
Society and the media love large breasted women, it should do as it helped create them. On the other hand its reaction to most of ‘us’ is very different. We are not part of ‘its’ creation.
i happen to dig my small titties and every other womans small titties.
but
i think that everyone has a choice. it’s her body, she can do whatever she pleases with it. it’s none of anyone else’s beeswax. mind your own, people. and more power to her.
>>why do you care, this doesnt effect you or your life, how >>does my friend getting bigger boobs change your life in >>the slightest
As mentioned before she carries on the tradition of women looking a specific way, a way that has been moulded by our media.
It effects me because I work, live and socialise with women who do not wish to do so and are reacted against because of it. If you don’t believe me go read some of the comments on this site whenever a woman appears with small breasts or isn’t photo-pretty.
>>if i have to guess by alot of the comments i see on >>modblog from you, i would say you just hate the world >>and are way to uptight
I study identity, I have strong opinions and have done extensive research on the history and politics behind how we are seen and how we see ourselves. If you like I can simply put “Corrrrrr, great tits. I’d tap that”. Alas it isn’t who I am.
Dany, what is it with the tolerance in the body modification scene?
There are so many experiences on BME where a woman states that she has modified her body to “claim it back” after a traumatic experience. What about claiming your body for yourself after many years of being unhappy, feeling insecure because of it’s shape? Seems equally legit to me.
Eunuchs, transsexuals, heavy modifiers, voluntary amputees, we all aplaud their braveness. But a woman who wants to have breast implants is automatically a bimbo on societys remote control? Now that is one whopper of a double standard.
Oh, Dany is actually a Damn :)
I have wanted breast implants for most of my post-pubescent life, but not for positive reasons like those for my piercings and ink.
I am pressured by media images and by the comments of morons, but I have a fiance (whose opinions I respect far more than those of the generic “men” or, indeed, women) who has the same beliefs as Giles Wallwork - he likes my mods because they’re “me”, but thinks that to have breast implants would be to give in to forces that make women very unhappy.
However, I sometimes think that there’s no great cosmic force which will praise me for denying myself something that would make me happy.
So, I see both sides of the debate. Both sides are equally valid - it’s not a debate between tolerant and intolerant people, it’s a debate where the goal of both sides is a positive one - happiness for women. There are just differing opinions about how that can be achieved best.
On a sidenote, I have to admire Giles Wallwork for engaging with the debate more than most males would. I remember him pointing out “we live in a flawed patriarchal society desperately in need of change”… and despite everything they say, a lot of men still don’t understand why. So, whether you approve of his opinions or not, he is contributing intelligently to something “not his problem”. There are very few people willing to speak out on the side of a group not their own.
18 just because something is free does not mean that you need it.
I wish there was more folks out there who were modifiying not for the approval of themselves or anyone else. YOU ARE FINE> you don’t have to do anything to yourself to feel good about yourself other than be a decent human being.
i’m out
then where is the line drawn
you are making blanket statements, as far as i am reading them then, that no women should get breast implants because of your conspricy theory that they are all just brainwashed by society
punishing one group of people because there might be a group that does have problems and only does it to fit in, i think its very unfair and rediculous
most women are strong, they know what they want and should be able to obtain it without hearing, in my opinion, very demeaning statements about how they arent making the choice for them they are only doing it so society and men will like them better
live and let live, to attack people that are geniunely doing what they really want to do with there body is uncalled for which is what i take offense too
taking a postive experience and turning it into a pulpit against plastic surgery is offensive to me
Em - Many thanks for you kind words.
Giles - I think it’s rather silly that you think of any mod as a person trying to be “in” or “out”… personally, I’m just trying to be me, I don’t care if it’s “in” or “out”. I know plenty of people who got piercings and tattoos because they were trying to be “in”. Therefore should we ridicule everyone with a navel ring or nautical star tattoo?
I like how the “you’re fine the way you are” argument is ignored when it lines up with our own aesthetic bias, but is shouted from the rooftops when it doesn’t line up.
People should have the bodies they want to have. And since we don’t live in a vacuum — we live with billions of other people, all influencing us in various ways — it’s natural that there will be societal influence as well as personal influence. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as people know that they’re free to make any decision they want to for themselves.
Pauly - Why did your friend get her breasts enlarged?
Hi there!! i do love my tattoo, so thank you for the compliments on it. NO I DID NOT put a banner anywere for this website when I was on my journey. My safety, wasy my number #1 concern above all. And I kept it kinda hush hush. But, how it works, I would message difffernt guys (there is over 9,000 guys willing to donate to boob jobs!!) and tell them about me, my day, why I want them, ect.. and everytime we would communicate, I would get a dollar credit to my goal, and they can also make a cash donation to be from anywhere of $5- $1,000 at a time. It sounds weird, but I acually made a lot of friends on this site. It’s a whole community with blogs, and news, it’s almost like a myspace for boobs!
HELLO I AM RIGHT HERE GILES!!! damn, you can just ask me why I want them done, and really, it’s not important other than I WANT THEM.
I love the tattoo’s hair
Mars - Those are terms used in social sciences in regards to those doing something for themselves or those doing something for other reasons (sub-conscious interpellation for example).
Fancy Heart - Why did you want them?
I’m a big supporter of cosmetic surgery. Fake breasts look wicked awesome.
After checking out the website though, that is absoloutly something I would not be comfortable taking part in. That would be way, way to hard on my dignity and self respect. It just rings way to close to prostitution for my liking.
But with that being said, I am a supporter of legalizing prostitution and am all about people making their own decisions so long as they are not harming anyone else. All the power to the women and men who are comfortable with it. :)
Horah for you!
9000 guys wanting to pay for women to have boob jobs and yet you still can’t see the pressure put on from others to have it done?
“I have strong opinions and have done extensive research on the history and politics behind how we are seen and how we see ourselves. If you like I can simply put “Corrrrrr, great tits. I’d tap that”. Alas it isn’t who I am.”
Again, admiration. This is in no way anti-male (women would do the same were we living in a matriarchy) but most men WOULD put “corr, great tits”. Dominant social groups can be lazy and uncaring.
Then again, Pauly’s comments are great too, as he is stressing her feelings as a person, and putting them above everything else.
I’m actually pleased that this argument is going on. It shows how many people are decent and thoughtful.
Giles - You really think the women on that site are the ones being exploited? I’d suggest it may well be the other way around, if you’re going to make the case for exploitation.
Shannon - On that particular site clearly it is the men paying but also the women too by becoming what the men want.
once lindsay gets them titties, I’m fucking proposing!
#57 should be on “House”
Giles - That’s incredibly insulting to the women. What makes you think they’re not becoming what THEY want? The fact that they can get guys to pay for it doesn’t make their feelings illegitimate.
Why are you treating women as if they can’t make decisions for themselves?
Ive been a dancer for 6 years and my best regular bought me my breast implants. Mine were free, and i didnt have to screw him or give him sexual favors to get them. he was just a genuinly nice guy with a lot of money.
ive been suspended, implanted, tattooed, pierced, and scalpeled. woo!
there should be a “my implants are bigger then your implants” t shirt. in jest of course, not that there isnt a whole lot of one upping in this community.
O Giles, maybe if you would have donated to me on this site, I would have told you why I want them ;-)
>>Why are you treating women as if they can’t make decisions for themselves?
I’m not, I could turn the argument round and say “Why can’t you see how much our society manipulates women?”
Don’t you accept that media and advertising portrayals of women are crass and unrealistic? Cover models airbrushed to perfection to cover up ‘reality’. Catwalk women so thin they look malnurished. Dress size averages in retail outlets nearly 4 sizes below the ACTUAL average size of women. Even the idea of ‘Barbie’ is an incredibly unobtainable figure that no woman could ever hope to attain.
All of these are instilled into females from an early age and throughout their lives.
I actually applaud any woman who doesn’t succumb to the pressure placed on them image wise.
Fancy Heart - You could just tell us all here.
I think i’ll take my tiny titties with a side of dignity
Giles - Sure, the media projects an image about what the average person considers attractive. They do it for men, and for women. Big deal. Fancy Heart is covered in tattoos and obviously has the strength of character to see past it all and like what she likes for herself. We’re not talking about someone with no other mods trying to remake themselves into Barbie. We’re talking about someone with tons of control over themselves that happens to want new boobs as well as all her tattoos and other mods.
And TV is doing promo for tattoos as well — shows like Miami Ink are pushing people HARD into getting tattoos. Ask any tattoo shop and they’ll tell you that those shows are making them a ton of money.
There are also people being pushed into religion. Into political views. Whatever. The world is a war of ideas. I would hope that people are able to grow up, see through the BS, and make a decision for themselves. I’m not about to tell people that they can’t get breast implants because they’re on TV too much, nor am I going to tell people to not get tattoos because they’re ultra-cool in 2007.
Especially not someone who’s already shown that they’re perfectly capable of seeing past what this strawman cliche of “men” want her to look like.
and for the record i love it when people without vaginas tell people with vaginas how to treat their bodys…..
Shannon - Irrespective of why Fancy Heart had tattoos she still hasn’t explained why she had her breasts enlarged.
I wonder if the reason has something to do with confidence (i.e. how we want others to see and accept us).
Giles - Um… My tattoos help my confidence, and I like the image in terms of how I want others to see me and interact with me. Is that wrong?
Shannon - Well yes, it is about fitting in with a way that is acceptable to others rather than getting others to accept you the way you are.
It is about fitting in around others’ requirements rather than them fitting in with yours.
“My confidence comes from knowing THEY are not judging me and my breast size”.
Giles:
Look. For every action and decision that one can make in a layered and complex society like ours, there are any number of influencing factors that may play a role. Media images and other like attitudes play a significant part in all of our day to day lives, what we eat, what we wear, and how we wish to present ourselves in all sorts of ways.
The fact that you feel it necessary to summon an extreme level of moral indignation on this one solitary issue says more about you than it does about the topic at hand. *You* don’t approve of breast implants because you think they exist only to subjugate women. Awesome. But regardless of your feelings, the fact remains that breast implants are very much a part of the culture — to the point that they’ve largely evolved beyond an embodiment of male fantasies and into a very possible reality for women who are simply unsatisfied with their natural appearances.
The fact that you refuse to give women the benefit of the doubt as far as their capability to make decisions about the way they choose to present themselves — well, that’s a much more insidious, patriarchal move than a woman making a sovereign choice to get implants for herself, and it smacks of the very type of disrespect that you claim to be against.
the website seems pretty beneficial to both parties…. the guys get all of these girls vying for their attention, and the girls get free plastic surgery… not to bad of a deal if you ask me. i dont really see anyone getting taken advantage of, and if anything its empowering to the girls, seeing as how they have all the control.
and giles… youre an idiot.
Giles - We don’t live in a vacuum, and the way that others see us hugely affects our lives. If someone realizes that they can fine-tune their look in a way that will manipulate others into behaving in a way that they want, more power to them.
Are you also opposed to haircuts?
That is, haircuts that are popular on TV anyway, not atypical haircuts.
Shannon - Am only opposed to haircuts done for others, naturally.
Body Modification should always be about creating an identity for yourselves and not doing it for others. Having a mod, any mod, purely for the acceptance of others is wrong.
Giles,
As a woman, when I hear you blather on about how we are manipulated by society so much it offends me. Not all of us are that weak minded as to fall into this category. A lot of us are more than capable of thinking for ourselves and making our own choices, free of influence.
Pau
Kyle - Either contribute on an intelligent adult level or just leave the grow-ups to talk. I understand you haven’t quite followed the argument too well.
hahahaha…. boobies
Giles - But do you really think that when a person goes and gets a specific haircut they’re doing it because they have some personal/internal/spiritual/whatever drive to get that haircut? Of course not — haircut popularity is quite obviously dictated by the media…
Again, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, because we don’t live in a vacuum, and our aesthetic decisions gain much of their meaning from their sociocultural context.
Giles, for alll you know, I could be a lesbian, SO STOP THINKING I am doing to it fit into some culture of the plain skins. Fake tits are hot!!!! and I can not wait to sport my own!
Lesbians getting breast implants would make Giles head explode :P
all i have to say is wow..
Most lesbians have a stronger self image than heterosexual women… apparently. The media doesn’t often portray lesbian women anywhere near as often as straight women.
Fancy Heart - I believe we are still awaiting your explanation as to why?
Manini - Are you familiar with structured sub-conscious interpellation? It has nothing to do with being weak willed. Advertising companies and the media spend billions on creating images we can fimiliarise with and then tweak them so that we identify with those we see. It isn’t just women, it is everyone.
Hehe, Fancy Heart you’re having your surgery on my birthday.
And Giles.. a lot of what you are saying is pretty offensive to women, so your whole “oh I care about womens feelings etc.” thing is kinda backfiring.
Lucy - not really, sorry.
And why are you going on about the media!? I’ll bet 99% of the people reading this don’t give a crap about what the media portrays and it has no effect upon their decisions. It doesn’t mine anyway.
Media includes everything from TV, Internet, Magazines, Cinema, News, advertising etc.
You think I don’t know that?
the question to ask yourself with any mod is if mainstream opinion of it was different would you still do it? if big boobs were seen as ugly and the mainstream aesthetic was for flat chests would you want boob implants or reduction?
if giant lobes was a massively mainstream fashion and people with unpierced lobes were the freaks would you want to stretch yours?
some people like to go towards the mainstream aesthetic others want to push away from it as much as they can. either way they are both influenced by it.
either way if it makes people happy i say go for it.
Perhaps, maybe. You tell me what media doesn’t include?
>>if big boobs were seen as ugly and the mainstream aesthetic was for flat chests would you want boob implants or reduction?
Extremely good point.
The mainstream opinion isn’t really the same as the media portrayal though. It’s not people being pressured into ‘liking’ those things, like big boobs, it’s natural to find them attractive, as they make a woman look womanly, so a sign of fertility. It’s not media pressure.
I am dissapointed in you Fancy Heart! I think it’s really a step backwards for all the women who aim to be strong and self-sufficient for you to promote using men to buy your new boobs. You are just a step up from being a prostitute in my mind…..worse even because at least those ladies are working for their money and their fake tits. If you want to pretent to be into guys so they’ll buy you things, come here to Nevada and spread your legs for money….we call them whores.
Giles:
You are not God’s gift to feminism. Quite clearly, you have an agenda and an ideal of what women should be and what they should do, which, while ostensibly the opposite of the media’s supposed attitude, ends up at the very same point as the latter. Men and women both are granted sovereignty over their bodies, and the fact that you disapprove of the path that many choose says more about your conservative, reductive views than anything else.
I already told you- Fake tits are Hot! Ta-da! theres your reason!
Aren’t you going slightly off topic with the media thing.. media technically can include everything.. but it’s only pressure from the media if that person is actually pressured! Not if they have their own opinion on the matter and makes their own decision on it. Sure, it can be influenced by the media.. that’s not the same as pressure!!
She already explained why she wants them. BECAUSE SHE WANTS THEM. That should be good enough.
>>it’s natural to find them attractive, as they make a woman look womanly,
DISGUSTINGLY offensive point Lucy and I feel sorry for anyone reading this who does not possess large ‘womanly’ breasts.
It is exactly your kind of thinking that pushes other women to conform to this ‘un-natural’ fake aesthetic.
Shame on you for such a belief.
I bloody don’t! I’m just stating what is naturally generally attractive! There is a reason for it.. like men tend to find hourglass figures attractive = wide hips = easy child birth. Get my point?
I just spent a 3-day weekend at Erotica-LA with a bunch of the ladies from the MyFreeImplants website (including Fancy Heart) and all them are just the nicest group you could ever meet.
After observing everyone at the convention it is quite clear: Most guys simply don’t get it, and they never will. Time and time again the guys would come up to the girls and say “You don’t need implants, you’re beautiful just the way you are.”
No douche bag, you don’t understand! She’s not getting implants for YOU. She’s getting them for herself. You will never understand that, so stop trying to convince her otherwise.
Perhaps the saddest thing about this whole experience for me personally is how women are treated like second class citizens, as if they don’t have the brain power to make a decision on their own.
It’s no different than Row v. Wade — women can’t think for themselves, so let’s help them out and do the thinking for them, and while where at it, lets try to pass legislation that prevents them for being able to think on their own in the future. Gimme a friggin break!
This is 2007 people. Not 1807.
Don’t hate. Congratulate.
hahaha im`stayin out of this fight for a change. man atleast when i start fights i have a purpose. i dont see any point to what this guy is saying other then he cant relate. i dont think you have to jusitfy why we do what we do with our own lives. why some people buy certain products, cut hair, prepare food, collect stuff, enhance or multilate themselves. im just shocked i never heard of that site before now. i think its a cool idea. who cares if this site helps girls get boob jobs for free while there are starving kids in africa or kids in ghettos that cant read. you cant help everyone out there all at once. me askin a girl why she wants big boobs is like me askin a obese man why he chose to be that way. im sure i wont get an answer i see eye to eye with. so i dont waste time. live life, do what makes you feel happy, no matter who else might look down on you for it. whether its to fit in or to feel more comfortable with yourself. spoil yourself while you can.just be safe about it. and lyndsy….you better have this shit filmed for me to sit back with a bowl of popcorn and watch later
Oh my god.. you are driving me insane.
Lucy - No, not at all. A variety of different men find a variety of different shapes visually attractive. There is no ‘natural’ figure that is specifically attractive over others. Apart from perhaps a ‘real’ one.
Um, pronounced breasts being womanly isn’t a “fake aesthetic”… It’s biology.
Same as height or obvious musculature being considered masculine. It’s just hardwired biology.
Jordan - ” Quite clearly, you have an agenda and an ideal of what women should be”
Not at all, that is societies agenda, I have the opposite.
Thankyou! Finally someone backing me up.
It never said it was ALL men finding that attractive, I know people find all different shapes attractive. That’s why I said ‘generally’. I personally prefer the look of smaller breasts and wish I had them myself, so you can’t go saying that my belief is that women should always have big boobs.
Shannon - Un-natural as in not their own.
Giles, if you don’t have an agenda, then I’m awfully fucking confused about the conversation you’ve ignited here.
It would be one thing — and, really, more understandable — to say you just don’t find large, fake breasts attractive. Hey, to each his own, right? But you’re not doing that. Instead, you’re painting with broad strokes and admonishing able-minded, independent women for the choices they make that affect you NEVER. Like, EVER.
Do you hold men who exercise and lift weights in order to realize a particular body image in similar contempt?
“Irrespective of why Fancy Heart had tattoos she still hasn’t explained why she had her breasts enlarged.”
Why the fuck should she have to explain it? She wants bigger boobs, she found a way to achieve that goal, she will now get the boobs she wants…SHE wants them, nobody is forcing her to get them, she is voluntarily getting them.
It is her business, and her’s alone. A grown woman who seems like a strong, happy person. I say Congratulations, hope the surgery goes well, and enjoy your new rack Fancy Heart!
Anyway for anyone wanting to read further on the psychological reasoning behind such modifications such as breast augmentation and why it differs so very very much from other forms you could do well to read.
Body Modification - Mike Featherstone
Mutilating the Body - Identity in Blood and Ink - Hewitt
The Cultural Politics of Body Modification - Victoria Pitts
Bodies under siege - Favazza
The Body Aesthetic - Siebers
Re: “There is no ‘natural’ figure that is specifically attractive over others.” -Giles
Um… Are you actually saying that all people are of equal attractiveness naturally? Or am I reading that wrong? Because obviously some body types give people a MASSIVE advantage in life.
Yeah I’m going to jump on that.
…and short of being a genetic supremacist, I don’t see why people shouldn’t be able to achieve them artificially as well as naturally if they so desire.
>>>Um… Are you actually saying that all people are of equal attractiveness naturally?
No I’m saying they SHOULD be.
It only differs if you think it does. Fact is, it is some sort of modification to the body. It’s only the reasoning behind different people getting different mods that differs. Some can be good some can be bad. You can’t generalise all boob jobs to be in the ‘bad’ catergory just because it’s more mainstream and the media thinks it’s good.
All people SHOULD be of equal attractiveness naturally? What kind of pseudo-Marxist bullshit is that? Why conceivable reason is there for that? Should everybody like the exact same foods because it’s unfair to prefer one taste to another? I rather enjoy being able to decide for myself what’s attractive or pleasant and what isn’t.
Free will, baby! It’s faaaantastic!
GILES, you’re my favorite. I give you mad, mad respect. you make me happy.
My sister started working in a strip club 2 years ago for financial reasons. And from my perspective, it seems like she was coerced into the lifestyle. But when she says that she now “loves” her job, it makes me nauseous. I just can’t help but feel like she’s lying to herself so she doesn’t feel bad about having to take her clothes off to make ends meet.
oh, and free will doesn’t exist jordan.
Hi all,
I’m one of the owners of MyFreeImplants.com (hate it or love it) and I just wanted to make a comment about Lindsay. She reached her goal on our site extremely fast because she is down to earth, intelligent, sexy, and respectful of everyone. Yes, some girls on our website attract guys by posting pics and sending videos but the girls who have the most success (like Lindsay) are some of the least racy. The men respect her becuase she’s a cool ass chick and when they have some extra cash to spare, why not give it to an awesome person person who’s doing something she really wants with it?
As some of you know Lindsay works/used to work with a non-profit for cancer victims. She’s not a gold digger…just smart enough to take advantage of another great, free service on the Internet
Ha ha, tremendous. That’s just what I needed to hear. Thank you, Obi-Wan.
LD, not everyone is like your sister though. Which is what Giles seems to think.
I have issue with this site because it seems just another way for men to control womens bodies, just seems a bit seedy to me.
However i have no problem with breast implants, if its what you want to do with your body then thats your right, good luck with the surgery and i hope it turns out well :)
Also the tattoo is very cute
Quoth the Giles:
>>No I’m saying they SHOULD be.
And as long as we live in the real world, are biological organisms, and rely upon sexual reproduction for the propogation of our species, that will never, ever happen.
We don’t live in a transhumanist fantasyland of massive levels of genetic engineering done on humans and/or cloning, or one with mass numbers of cyborgs running around, though, do we?
Also, there’s something I’m not clear on: are you stating you don’t believe that women who decide they want implants are incapable of making an informed, rational decision or merely stating you don’t think *anyone* is capable of making informed, rational decisions, and simply caves into what society is pressuring them to do? Well, except you, of course. See, I’m trying to clarify your views, so I can determine whether you’re truly misogynist, or merely an elitist asshole.
Ooh, bloody ‘ell O_o
I don’t see why Fancy Heart should be made to explain why she wants bigger boobies, same as I don’t see why I should explain why I want bigger ear lobes or why I paint my nails.
I can’t help but feel Mr Big Ears’ statement of “No one should dictate to me what I can and can not do to my body” fits in here somewhere…
I dig the tattoo though, it reminds me of Jessica Rabbit ^___^
If it makes her confident, boost her self esteem, and gives her an improved lifestyle than it was money well spent by anyone who would donate to such a good cause.
for everyone that doesn’t have fake boobs and wants to hate on people who want or have them for not loving themselves enough… stop judging. Some people who get fake boobs love themselves quite a bit. I , for one, got implants just because I could. Yes, that is the reason i got them, i’m not in some sort of denial about how i hate myself. I loved my body before and i love it now. stop, stop hatin.
This always makes me laugh, people with body mods, dermal implants tattoos, pulling a big snob hissy fit over a girl getting implants.
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT?
you are changing your body to suit your desires.
I still like this argument (can anyone guess that I’m procrastinating today?) but personal insults are uncalled for. I don’t think that anyone here is “an idiot” or “misogynist”, except the one person way back who said “big boobies, little brain.”
I dig civilised arguing, and haven’t noticed vast amounts of “omg wat a whore1111″ or “omg this/that kind of boobs is disgustin” comments, so please can we keep that up?
All the guys here think that self-esteem in a woman is good, and that women should care for their mental health. That’s all that matters.
I know I’m late to this party, but I don’t think anyone has articulated MY main issue with this whole debate. I have no problems with breast implants (I personally had mine surgically reduced, but whatever works for you is cool with me), BUT the thing that rubs me the wrong way is having someone else pay for them.
This is an issue I have with any mods though–again, personal opinion only, but I would be extremely uncomfortable making a modification to my body that was tied to any other person. I have waited years, saving and budgeting, to make my mods happen, and in the end I think I felt a greater sense of pride because I had to earn them on my own. When I look in the mirror, I am proud that I have relied only on myself to create this body that is increasingly mine with each addition. But then again, I also have deeply rooted money issues and obsessively pay off my credit cards each month, so, take it for what it’s worth.
Love the tattoo, by the way. :o)
whatever verbs your noun! i didn’t feel like reading through comments, but hey, if a lady wants boobies and she can get them free, she should be able to get her some boobies.
As the one who made the “misogynist” comment, I’d say I was off - misogynist wasn’t the correct term to use, since I don’t have any evidence, from his posting, that Giles actively hates women.
That Giles feels them incapable of making an informed decision, though, I’ll stand by, which would make him sexist. Unless, of course, he feels *nobody* is capable of doing so, with the exception of a very select group, which *would* make him elitist. Both views can be inferred from his posts.
Christ on a cracker, will you lay off the poor girl?! Yeah, the media might be enforcing this image of large breasted women as being the most attractive but who are you to say that Fancy Heart has been manipulated into thinking that she needs them? You don’t know that, and from what I can see, she wants them for herself. You know, not to impress anyone else, but because that’s what she likes. Us female-folk are capable of making decisions on our own, and we don’t need people telling us what we can and can’t do to our own bodies.
Seriously, this is the 21st century, right? So start living in it.
I don’t see how people start about haters so soon in these comments. I don’t see any so called “haters” in the first 30 comments. Most of the comments I read are quite possitive. Some aren’t, but hey… freedom of speach???
Personally I like small tits better than bib ones, but that ofcourse is completely besides the point. What does count is that through this website she gets to do what she wants fast.
Personaly I would have great doubts about websites like these. Good to see that there still are genuin websites among all the frauds.
I don’t think it’s ‘demeaning’ AT ALL for Giles and others to suggest that women are influenced by society to a massive extent. In fact, as someone who has suffered depression due to pressure to conform to beauty standards, I find that assertion rather offensive. I think some folk here underestimate the pressure put on women if you think it’s in any way a sign of weakness that a woman would make a decision based on societal pressures.
That said, this is an incredibly complex topic. I’m considering posting this to a feminist forum to see what they have to say about it… if that’s alright?
Giles - it seems to me you’ve done a fair amount of reading on this subject. This is a good thing, well done. Now back up your reading by interaction with actual, real people. They don’t always do, think, feel, want, what the sociology books would have you believe. As much as it doesn’t pay to not be informed about sociological trends, it’s dangerous to ascribe generalised motives to individuals without knowing the individual very well indeed.
I know I’m coming in late, but there are a few things that I had to say
Giles:
1) Society and the media love large breasted women, it should do as it helped create them. um, what? I’m pretty sure evolution created large breasted women.
2) Most lesbians have a stronger self image than heterosexual women… apparently. The media doesn’t often portray lesbian women anywhere near as often as straight women. hey, surprise, lesbians are women too. When women are portrayed in the media, they could easily be lesbians unless proven otherwise. Even if lesbians aren’t trying to attract dudes, they’re still subject to most of the same pressures, because they still have to live with men who view them as sexual objects.
3) Even if “the media” has brainwashed women to want larger breasts, Fancy Heart still wants them because SHE will feel better with them. Should she be the sacrificial lamb who doesn’t do something SHE wants because it’s “wrong” on some level? That’s like telling an asian kid they shouldn’t play violin even if they like it because they’re going to be encouraging a stereotype.
4) Her having breast implants doesn’t hurt “teh childrens” any more than my naturally having large breasts does.
Wow, this has turned into quite a debate. I have to admit that when I first saw this I thought it was kinda fuct and sad. But then as I read through the comments I began to I understand the other side to this.
I think it is cool that she has found people who are willing to support her in this and hope it makes her very happy. I am not trying to tell women what to do with their bodies, that is not my place. I think both Shannon and Giles make some valid points. I do see a big double standard in that many here say if you want a tattoo or to cut off your balls, more power to you; but breast implants are evil! However, I think there is an unhealthy cultural pressure for women to have a certain body type that is unrealistic for most women which makes them feel insecure. This is the evil of the mass media marketing message, “you are not acceptable the way you are, so buy are products/services to make yourself more complete”. Fear and insecurity power much of the economy. With that being said I think we don’t know enough about this woman to judge her decision, and I’m not trying to say that she is weak willed, but like Shannon said we don’t live in a vacuum, and I think are society and media do influence many women to have this done. But whatever their motivation, if I thought they would all be happy with the end result then it wouldn’t bother me, but there are so many serious risks and complications that can occur with this procedure, it does bother me. The other thing that bothers me is that people are willing to fund this, while there are so many things like stem cell research and world hunger that I feel are better uses of the money, but that is really another issue. There are far worse things that are sucking up money that could be used to heal the world.
Of course, I admit I am biased on this issue, because I prefer smaller breast. The big ones are more prone to the downward pull of gravity, and I really don’t see the benefit in having any more than a “handful”. But that’s just me, I hope she enjoys them and does not have any problems, I truly do.
>>60
Remember that kid who did a DIY labret (I think it was a labret, or was it a ring?) by pushing a piece of chain link through his lower lip? He was what, 15?
I wonder if the current popularity of “unorthodox” piercings influenced his decision in any way?
I quite enjoy reading this blog, I have no modifications to speak of, my breasts aren’t that large either, and yes, I HAVE read about the history of breast modifications, I realize there are issues.
However, from my little view of the world, which includes a college campus, I can say that over the past ten years the popularity of body modification (tattoos, piercings, stretched ears) has skyrocketed among the high-school and college aged. It’s to the point now where I’d go so far as to call it common. No one bats an eye, and it is certainly a defined subculture “look” now, like it or not. Every college town has its share of tattoo and piercing shops now.
I imagine there are people who feel some pressure to fit a social circle, and get mods. Granted, most people are smart enough to call a piercer and avoid the chain link!
My point being, I’m not so sure that you can say that everyone who gets piercings or tattoos is doing it to reclaim their bodies from what society says they should look like either, if you define society as their immediate environment. Suicide girls is one view of mainstream “hot” now.
Goodness knows I’ve read posts on this site and elsewhere complaining about girls who get “the boring usual” butterfly tattoos, or the “everyone is doing it” navel rings. And yet, occasionally there will be the posts complaining that people view mods as a form of rebellion. There are complaints when people ask advice about how to “undo” a given mod, how large you can stretch ears and have it reversible, etc.
So I don’t know if the situations are as radically different as they may have been in the past.
That said, whatever mod you want, if it makes you happy, and it’s done in a safe way, with full thought as to all possible repercussions, have at it. Everyone has their own reasons for wanting a given mod (or not wanting it). It makes the world interesting.
Here’s a question for Giles:
you claim that anyone who gets breast implants must be doing it because they are being influenced by society, whereas your mods were completely individual choices free of societal manipulations. SO, would you still have gotten the mods you have if they represented the societal ideal and were promoted by the media as the way everyone should strive to look?
if you answer yes, then you are proving that your mods were indeed totally individual choices free of societal pressure, but then you would also have to admit that if you would have still gotten you mods simply to be true to yourself even in a world where they were considered the ideal, that there must be women out there who get breast implants solely to be true to themselves irregardless of societal norms, who would get them even if norms were reversed. You’d have to admit that it is completely possible for people to make an individual, unbiased decision to modify themselves in in a “popular” way.
if, on the other hand, you answer no, that you would not have gotten your mods had they represented the societal ideal then you are proving that your own choice of mods are just as much dictated by society and media pressure as you claim the choices of people who get breast implants are. you state that you act out of individuality and the fact that you don’t care what people think, whereas, in reality you care just as much as anyone else. you don’t want people to think you’re trying to fit in, so you pick and chose the modifications that society looks down on, and are therefore solely reliant on societies views for your mod choices. if society sees stretched ears as abnormal and “other” then you get them, but if society sees them as an ideal of beauty which everyone should strive for then you don’t. hence, it was not your choice but society’s.
That was quite a read. Phew, deep breaths now.
Okay.
Giles, first I want to congratulate you on having a strong opinion as well as the knowledge and conviction to stand by and support your position. Constructive arguments, which I consider this - for the most part - to be, requires at least TWO intelligent sides and I want to thank you for taking the time to articulate your views.
Now, I recognize that most of what happens in our minds is going on ‘behind the scenes’ without our knowledge. As has been said; the effects of subtle and not so subtle societal influence on the unconscious mind have been studied extensively. My question is: where is the line drawn? If there are societal pressure to be a certain way that could lead a person to do something to themselves (i.e. breast implants, liposuction, bodybuilding etc.) does that automatically make it not okay? If you are a knowledgeable person who is aware of this phenomena does that make it okay to go ahead with your desires, or does it remain negative no matter what the level of considered introspection and potential ongoing societal impact?
I don’t agree with this, but the argument could be made that something can be so damaging to society as a whole that a responsible person wouldn’t involve themselves in it no matter what their personal desires are. I do not think that this – along with most mods - fall under this umbrella. Ultimately, very few issues are simple cut and dry when examined closely, the world and in this case the mind, is just too complex.
Personally? I think that this specific thing is just not that huge of an issue. If you want to talk about negatives influence arising from the larger culture, then there are many things that I would consider to be more troubling that should be discussed and dealt with before you get to body image, plastic surgery and large fake breasts. If you actually did manage to tackle those other things firstly then by time you actually got to the fake breasts it would no longer be an issue as it would have already been handled.
Ill end this waaaaay too long rant by saying that while I do not know fancy heart, she seems like a healthy well adjusted person who has probably given this a some thought. If she wants free big breasts then more power to her.
well i don’t have much to say other than MODS ARE MODS! no matter the they’re tattoos, piercings, botox, implants (of ANY KIND), braces, hair dye or anything else! just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you have to jump down her throat! just turn the fuck away from it!
Lindsay hope your surgery goes well and the tattoo is awesome!
Wow, I’m almost scared to jump in here. “To each his own.”
Giles, a few points I’d like to make:
“There are some shocking stories of girls as young as 8 wanting breast enlargements because they feel pressured into looking like all those pretty images on TV.”
I could just as easily say, “there are shocking stories of girls as young as 8 wanting large gauge septum piercings because they feel pressured into looking like that cool singer from the Prodigy in the Firestarter video on TV.”
“Many of the modification practices we do have established roots throughout history as a form of expressive assertion.”
Aren’t many modification practices, in a historial sense, about belonging to a group, and so conforming to group expectations? Just because western society is a larger “group”, does this make its general aesthetic preferances less valid than those of tribal groups?
“the media spend billions on creating images we can fimiliarise with and then tweak them so that we identify with those we see. It isn’t just women, it is everyone.”
You’re right, it’s everyone, yourself included. And since the media includes this blog and those books you referred to, I believe that your veneration of a natural body, modified as a form of “expressive assertion”, is myth that you buy into to feel better about yourself, because it conforms to society’s view of aesthetic and cultural rebellion.
Like Fancy Heart said, “fake tits are hot!”. What better reason is there?
has anyone noticed that fashion these days has very little to do with big boobs anyway?? giles mentioned catwalk models being malnourished quite a while back and i definitely dont equate the malnourished look with big boobs… last i noticed boobs didnt seem so hot in the fashion world anymore anyway…
that aside, im pretty much agreeing with everyone here that giles saying that all women who get boobs have been brainwashed is insulting. at the risk of sounding completely arrogant, enough people tell me im hot WITHOUT fake boobs, doesnt mean i dont want a pair to play with! in fact, most guys i tell i want fake boobs to tell me NOT to.
fuck the haters! i want free boobies! and IM gonna be the one to enjoy them!
people actually DONATED MONEY so that you could have BIGGER BREASTS?!!?!?! WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS?!?!?! why don’t people give their money to charities and organizations that can actually IMPROVE THE WORLD?!?!?!!?!? GRRRRRRRRR…
Giles why are you so concerned about being in or out of the mainstream. It sounds to me you want to be so out that even being a little normal is a problem. Just be who you want and dont care were you fall. It seems like your more concerned about self image than everyone else here. Im surprised you use the internet it being so mainstream and not having any spiritual backing.
Just a thought… could this person have been paid to get this tattoo, making it a great marketing ploy? This post has obviously increased traffic on their site, and even though they are giving “free” implants they are obviously making money from maintaining it. Her words seem too scripted.
Anyway, posts like this remind me why I read modblog, I love reading the debate and commentary on society, especially on women’s bodies.
I know people who have implants, some who did it for their husbands who want a Barbie doll wife, and others who have it because they had cancer and mastectomies. When it is done to please someone else and not yourself, to me it’s really sad.
Fancy Heart, congrats on the pretty tattoo and your new boobies.
damn Giles,
please don’t talk about women and how we are portrayed and how we feel in any respect unless you are one. No one has to give you or anyone else a reason for doing anything to their body. “Fancy Heart- tell us!!” It’s none of your business and the things you were writing were embarrasing to me, the mod community, and women in general. Go to the bathroom, look at your penis, and let this go. She wants them, she’ll love them. Just as you do your fucking plugs and the like. you don’t know what it feels like to look at kate moss or kate winslet. who are you? better off; who do you think you are?
and,
I hope for your sake and the medias
that you were born with an 9 inch penis the girth of a damn coke bottle and had a six pack to boot with the crap that is spewing from your mouth.
or we should all have that? I forget, you keep changing your mind and backtracking.
stop. just stop. embarrasing.. honestly
Hey betsy, do you have any mods? How about this:
people actually SPEND MONEY on TATTOOS AND PIERCINGS?!!?!?! WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS?!?!?! why don’t people give their money to charities and organizations that can actually IMPROVE THE WORLD?!?!?!!?!? GRRRRRRRRR…
Do you think that spending money on tattoos, piercings, etc., okay, but spending money on breast implants is wrong? If so, why? Why is the one okay, but the other isn’t?
Well heck, I need a dental bridge. I need a benefactor but bad. Boobies would be a plus but I really need a bridge.
Dental work just doesn’t have the same ring, does it =(
i read this article wrong. i thought her free boob job WAS the tattoo work, that she just spent the money on that. hah.
if she is getting the free implants, too, that’s even better.
Okay, I’m a little late on this but…
#26, they stated the site was created to help women raise money for surgeries of all kind (not only breast augmentation). It’s there to help women be happy with their body. So technically I am sure you can go on there and raise money for a breast reduction (although I’m not sure how many guys would donate for that cause).
Also, you might want to look into this. Some insurance companies will help with breast reductions because having too large of breasts can cause back problems.
It’s annoying that every time a woman wants to get some big ol’ titties stupid fucking ‘feminists’ jump in and say they’re setting a bad example for women everywhere because they’re bending to society’s beliefs and blah blah blah…
Why can’t women just be allowed to do what they want because it makes them happy? Unless a girl specifically says that she got her boob job because society or ‘the media’ told her so, then you can’t be sure that’s the reason and you’re just being a bastard for judging her based upon your assumptions.
Women getting breast implants or augmentations or whatever can do that just as much as women can stretch their ears and get genital piercings and scarification. Those modifications ARE all very similar in that it’s changing one’s body to conform to whatever idea of beauty one subscribes to, whether it’s purely aesthetic or spiritual or what have you; you can’t know a woman’s reasons for doing something unless she tells you.
Damn Giles has ruined my whole week.
I only enjoy poptarts because the media tells me everyone loves poptarts. MALES sell poptarts. I would be a much stronger woman if I chose not to eat those popta - oh that was the toaster I gotta go…
Giles - Thanks. As a rad-feminist, I don’t find your argument offensive at all. Anyone prepared to question prevailing cultural expectations that are damaging to women is a-ok with me, as long as you’re not claiming to speak with authority for all women, which I didn’t see you doing anywhere.
Notice that his initial comment wasn’t about the individual woman at all, but the site and the societal expectations that fuel it.
Everyone can go on about individual choice politics as much as they like, but it means bugger-all whilst some choices remain socially acceptable and represented positively in the media (boob implants), and others not (being hairy, or choosing not to define personhood or identity through sexual attractiveness and availability at all, for example).
And if you think women don’t face consequences for having the “wrong” boobs, check out the recent abc news article on “Cleavage: The Owner’s Manual”. “You don’t have to be flat-chested to be taken seriously,” she added. “You just have to be proportionate. For women who are small busted, that may mean a little padding. For well-endowed women, that may mean a minimizer.” Yup. Stuff your bra or squish the girls, ladies, or you won’t be taken seriously in the workplace. Goddamn, I never knew my breasts were so threatening and/or distracting! Poor men, awww.
And saying that only large breasts are sexually attractive is a pretty limited perspective. There are plenty of examples, both historical and current, of breasts of all shapes and sizes being attractive.
“Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising which tempt you to believe that your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires courage.”
emerson
i say if its what you want go for it, and good for you for following it through. the above quote fits this topic nicely
and may i ask. WHY DO WE CARE WHAT SHE DOES TO HER BODY? ITS HER DAMN BODY
SOME OF YOU MAKE ME SICK IF I WANT TO GET AT TATTOO OF SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE LIKE SWEET, IF SHE GETS BOOBS YOU ARE LIKE OMGWTFPWNDHAXXOR FLIPPING OUT. in my mind not b/c of theproduct but the means. now if shes ok to live with that decision i dont think anyone else but her should care.
ok theres my input
I read through this whole fucking thing.
Giles. If you really think that women getting breast implants are only doing so so that they fit into the mainstream of society, then you are a fool.
Body modification, whether it be piercings, tattoos, body building, castration, out-of-the-norm haircuts/mustaches/beards, cosmetic surgery of any kind, amputations, ANY form of body modification WHATSOEVER, is just that. And 99% of people do it for aesthetic reasons. NOT because society subconsciously wants, or needs them to. Nay. They do it because it makes them happy.
Tell me. WHY do you want your lobes stretched? Because you were so moved by African tribes? No. You did it because it looked nice to you. That is why she is getting breast implants. PERIOD. Tell me something else. If someone came up to you and asked you (and KEPT on asking you) why your lobes are stretched, what can you reply with besides “they look nice”?
SHE wants HER boobs the way SHE wants. Do you think that you could ask “